Talk:Narani

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Isn't it called Narani?

Strictly speaking we have no proof that normal Narayani writing would work the same way as the poems seen in Exile. Talashar 18:47, 5 January 2007 (CST)

I believe Narani, confusingly enough, is a language of Jack Wall's he frequently uses in songs. I.e., some of Exile's soundtrack is in Narani, but there is in fact no relationship to Narayan, or the Myst Universe, for that matter. Chucker 18:52, 5 January 2007 (CST)

Removed stub and requested an image. I'm thinking of a shot of the curtains in Narayan on which the symbols are displayed. Now if I could just get Exile working on Vista! --DedHed 06:34, 5 December 2007 (CST)

Added image of curtains.

And the language is Narani, not Narayani. Is there any way to change the title or make a redirect?

Mystress 19:04, 19 December 2007 (CST)

You can move the page by clicking "move" at the top of the page. Can you find a citation for that distinction? I had always thought Narayani was the language of Narayan and Narani was Jack Wall's invented language. Gorobay 05:27, 20 December 2007 (CST)

"I had always thought Narayani was the language of Narayan and Narani was Jack Wall's invented language." That was my impression as well. Confusingly enough, Jack also calls Narani "[a] dialect that this is related to Serenia" in an interview about Myst IV. This was discussed over at DLF. That Jack calls something from Myst IV (which is completely unrelated to Narayan) "Narani" makes it hard to believe for me that Narani could have any connection to Narayan. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chucker (talk • contribs) 23:03, 30 December 2007. Please sign your comments!

Since this just got linked to, I'd like to once again discuss the merits of 'Narani'. My belief is that Jack Wall created it for the Exile soundtrack, with the primary purpose of sounding great, later expanding it for Revelation. I do not believe there to be any connection, storyline or otherwise, to Narayan, D'ni or Serenia. Despite this, the following contradictory quotes exist:

Emphases mine. Now, it's possible that this is, indeed, a D'ni dialect common in Narayan, a variant "Serani" of which happens to be spoken in Serenia, and that there's some kind of story to all this of how the people of Narayan and Serenia strangely enough speak dialects of D'ni. It's also possible, and — as far as I'm concerned — far more likely, that Jack Wall was largely making these statements on the spot to give answers that would satisfy avid fans, rather than being in any way accurate or useful for research. I simply fail to see how a dialect of D'ni (which any D'ni language scholar I've asked contends is decidedly non-reminiscent of D'ni, I should add) could have realistically been the native language of the Narayani people. As for the naming, he was clearly inspired by his co-workers at Presto, but I see no other kind of relation.

I'm not looking to bash Jack; in fact, he has made some of the greatest contributions to D'niverse, and I think it also makes perfect sense for him to create a language this way. But I'd like some clarity on this matter, and I feel the evidence that Narani and Narayan are, in IC terms, entirely unrelated is rather overwhelming. I propose moving Narani to Narayani language, and Image:Narani.jpg to Image:Narayani script.jpg. Chucker 18:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't think we should move Narani to Narayani language. Narani is the language that Jack Wall made; Narayani is the language spoken in Narayan. They are different, so each should have its own article. Gorobay (talk • contribs) 07:35, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

But the current Narani article is about the Narayani language; except for the Background section, whose assertion appears to be false. So, let me rephrase: I think we need to split off around 80% of the article. Chucker 08:34, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah; in that case I agree. Gorobay (talk • contribs) 19:40, 23 August 2008 (UTC)